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Old 12-14-2012, 03:20 PM   #861
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They corrected it to be Adam, 20, not Ryan, 24. Ryan is the brother that's still alive.

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They corrected it to be Adam, 20, not Ryan, 24. Ryan is the brother that's still alive.
yep...Adam had Ryan's id on him that is why they thought it was him. Ryan said Adam had mental issues
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:26 PM   #863
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yep...Adam had Ryan's id on him that is why they thought it was him. Ryan said Adam had mental issues
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Benj even said "if you want to get a gun to protect the family, we will do that".

I don't think that would save us in a mass shooting like this

my sister does have a concelled weapons permit, however the school does not permit guns on campus (heck, maybe they'll change their ways now). She did comment today "gee maybe bullet proof vests should be on the school supply list"
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:37 PM   #865
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I'm already annoyed by all the political posts on fb about "this is why our gun laws need fixed".... But I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the shooter didn't get his gun legally... or have it registered per that law... And really- this isn't the time or the place to try to say "I told you so" about gun control. Too soon. :endrant: <--- that should be a real smiley. Just sayin.
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Everyone in here pretty much knows my stance and I'll just say that those who do these sorts of things wont be stopped by making the weapons illegal. Hmm China was almost worse and he did it with a knife. Otherwise I am staying out of the discussion because just like circ and vax, a debate is unlikely to change peoples minds.
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Everyone in here pretty much knows my stance and I'll just say that those who do these sorts of things wont be stopped by making the weapons illegal. Hmm China was almost worse and he did it with a knife. Otherwise I am staying out of the discussion because just like circ and vax, a debate is unlikely to change peoples minds.
yep...the shooting here this week was from stollen weapons
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Re: KAL ~ Christmas is Coming! Dec 9-15

Yes Fi, where there's a will there's a way. Sadly, incidents like these will continue to happen no matter the laws or safety nets out there.
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I just need to turn off the tv and the computer and do something else.

but you just can't turn off the thoughts
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McVay did it without guns, so did the uni-bomber and "middle east" based terrorists have been causing terror with and without weapons for how long? RB got wounded by a bomb not a gun. Most soldiers KIA are done so with IED or similar not directly shot. Now I got started but this is just a snippet on how changing gun laws wont disable psychopaths abilities to cause terror. Oh, the serial killer that was up here, he had a gun but he did all his by hand. Had Samantha (one of his vics) had a gun herself and some training, I doubt he'd have taken her. When I worked my shops, I ALWAYS had something on my hip under my apron and when things got a little weird with some customers, I'd just let my apron move enough so they could see it and funny how many of the weirdos would drive away. I will not be made a victim without at least trying to protect myself.
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