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Old 04-10-2013, 02:14 AM   #1
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My child was recently diagnosed with ODD (among other things)...could someone please explain this to me? I am clueless about this! The rest of the diagnoses didn't surprise me, but had never heard of this one.

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I know it stands for Oppositional Defiant Disorder and has to do with defying authority, but that's all I know.
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Like Mibarra said it is oppositional defiance disorder and has to do with defying authority but it is more than that. Some doctors will not give the diagnosis because they don't feel it is ever a fair diagnosis (basically it is a bit controversial). I have the diagnosis and my youngest has it too (or ADHD and bipolar with oppositional tendencies). Children diagnosed with ODD cannot stop themselves from arguing, needing to have the last word and frequently are not capable of doing what they are told. It is not that they are "being bad", it is that they cannot help themselves. These children are hard to like (I know because I was this child and my youngest is this child, I adore him but he can be hard to like as a parent and that is hard to live with). When I am ordered to do something I automatically think "no", I have to force myself to do it and I am an adult. It goes beyond being difficult or being rebellious. Many psychologists and developmental specialists feel that it isn't a fair diagnosis because the symptoms actually stem from other diagnosis such as ADHD, bipolar or RAD. However where children with ADHD refuse to do things because they have lost focus or are overstimulated and may react aggressively you can usually trace it and they feel remorse. If you watch long enough you can figure it out and find the pattern, usually. A child who truly has ODD will react unpredictably without reason. You may ask them to clean their room and they happily do it one day only to explode another with no difference between the two. There will be no remorse when they destroy property or harm people (that should be the diagnostic difference as I understand it). Bipolar children swing and do feel remorse though they may have a hard time expressing it or may express it through very low feelings towards themselves. They also tend to be very easy to like because they can be very charismatic when they are manic.

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Thanks for the explanation! I work in schools and have been wanting to learn more about this diagnosis. That's really helpful and interesting.
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My son has it too, and was diagnosed in Noverber. The Kazdin book "Parenting the Defiant Child" is a great read and has helped us a lot.
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Re: New to this...help please?

[QUOTE=iris0110;16483521]Like Mibarra said it is oppositional defiance disorder and has to do with defying authority but it is more than that. Some doctors will not give the diagnosis because they don't feel it is ever a fair diagnosis (basically it is a bit controversial). I have the diagnosis and my youngest has it too (or ADHD and bipolar with oppositional tendencies). Children diagnosed with ODD cannot stop themselves from arguing, needing to have the last word and frequently are not capable of doing what they are told. It is not that they are "being bad", it is that they cannot help themselves. These children are hard to like (I know because I was this child and my youngest is this child, I adore him but he can be hard to like as a parent and that is hard to live with). When I am ordered to do something I automatically think "no", I have to force myself to do it and I am an adult. It goes beyond being difficult or being rebellious. Many psychologists and developmental specialists feel that it isn't a fair diagnosis because the symptoms actually stem from other diagnosis such as ADHD, bipolar or RAD. However where children with ADHD refuse to do things because they have lost focus or are overstimulated and may react aggressively you can usually trace it and they feel remorse. If you watch long enough you can figure it out and find the pattern, usually. A child who truly has ODD will react unpredictably without reason. You may ask them to clean their room and they happily do it one day only to explode another with no difference between the two. There will be no remorse when they destroy property or harm people (that should be the diagnostic difference as I understand it). Bipolar children swing and do feel remorse though they may have a hard time expressing it or may express it through very low feelings towards themselves. They also tend to be very easy to like because they can be very charismatic when they are manic.

I liked this book http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS.../chrisficti-20


THANK YOU for putting this in terms that I completely understand!! This is my child...to a point. My child does feel remorse, but like you said, sometimes she has a hard time expressing it. ODD was just one of the 3-4 diagnoses she was given, ADHD being one as well, along with SPD, anxiety, and mild Asperger's. Also said she was extremely smart, which goes along with the Asperger's Dx.

Going into the eval, I knew there was "more" to my DD than just the normal age behavior, but hearing it officially hit me hard. I have found myself constantly pondering the thought, "Where did I go wrong with my child?", "I have failed my child!". Where do I go from from here? Next Tuesday has never seemed so far away! She has been seeing a play/behavior therapist for about 3 weeks now and she will be the one guiding us from here. OT saw my child 3 times but only "worked" solely with her once then deemed her better and said we didn't need to come back! (two of the appts, the OT conversed mainly with me while my child played.

Thank you ladies for answering. I will be coming here frequently!
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You did not do anything wrong. It sounds like the ADHD, anxiety, SPD and Aspie may go further to describing what is going on with your DD than ODD but it is hard to say not living with her every day. That is quite a few diagnosis and many of the symptoms are going to overlap. Hopefully the behavior therapist can help you but a good OT should be able to help your dd as well. If you have access to another center I would look into it as kids with SPD often thrive with OT.
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You did not do anything wrong. It sounds like the ADHD, anxiety, SPD and Aspie may go further to describing what is going on with your DD than ODD but it is hard to say not living with her every day. That is quite a few diagnosis and many of the symptoms are going to overlap. Hopefully the behavior therapist can help you but a good OT should be able to help your dd as well. If you have access to another center I would look into it as kids with SPD often thrive with OT.
Thank you...because of insurance I am limited to which OT I can use but will look into some of the others.
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My daughter has ADD/ADHD and now that she is getting older, we are seeing some mood issues, and its so hard trying to weed out if it could be more of a mood disorder, or something like ODD. Beacuase its a blend of both!! lol I believe its all on some sort of spectrum too. That book looks great, so thanks for the tip!
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