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Old 07-30-2013, 11:20 PM   #1
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Lip Tie in 13-month-old?

I've just discovered today that my 13-month-old has a pretty clear lip tie, at least class III, maybe even class IV. This explains so much about our breastfeeding history at this point. She's always come off the breast so easily, she's always made frequent clicking sounds, I've always had semi-flattened nipples (despite seeing a LC who told me there was nothing wrong with her latch). Most recently, I've been getting recurring blebs on both nipples. For the past three months, they keep coming back. As soon as one clears, another develops. I've tried lancing, not lancing, breaking her latch and starting over with a deeper one, etc. No help. As a result, I've also been getting recurring clogged ducts until I can get the bleb lanced again, and blah blah, blah. It's been rough.

I've always wanted to nurse until she wanted to quit, and at this point, she would be devastated. But nursing is getting to be extremely painful. So is it worth getting her lip tie looked at? Is it too late for fixing it to make a difference? Anyone have experience with this? How do I go about finding someone to make the determination?

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Old 07-31-2013, 12:30 AM   #2
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Re: Lip Tie in 13-month-old?

Watching this...lip ties are hard! Can't find anyone who thinks DDs huge lip tie is an issue. Clicking, shallow latch, on again off again, that's us! And NIP is a pain besides being noisy.
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Old 07-31-2013, 08:43 AM   #3
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Re: Lip Tie in 13-month-old?

My son is 16 months old and has one. We struggled too and I got several blebs for months. We never got it fixed. I recommend talking to your pedi. They might be able to clip it.
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Old 07-31-2013, 01:57 PM   #4
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Re: Lip Tie in 13-month-old?

Find a reputable lactation consultant who can steer you in the direction of a dentist who you can consult with. I know in our area there are two that perform laser treatments and one who does a clipping. They will certainly has some feedback on age too. Unfortunately, dentists who perform these can be few and far between. You may also be able to get in touch the lactation consultant at your local hospital. It is a close knit group and they can likely steer you in the right direction on someone who is well versed in lip/tongue ties. Hope this helps!
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Old 07-31-2013, 01:58 PM   #5
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Re: Lip Tie in 13-month-old?

Find a reputable lactation consultant who can steer you in the direction of a dentist who you can consult with. I know in our area there are two that perform laser treatments and one who does a clipping. They will certainly has some feedback on age too. Unfortunately, dentists who perform these can be few and far between. You may also be able to get in touch the lactation consultant at your local hospital. It is a close knit group and they can likely steer you in the right direction on someone who is well versed in lip/tongue ties. Hope this helps!
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Old 08-01-2013, 09:45 PM   #6
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Where are you located? I can help you find the closest specialist.
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Old 08-05-2013, 03:21 PM   #7
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Re: Lip Tie in 13-month-old?

I'm in the Seattle area. My cousin is actually a dentist, and I asked her about it. She said she doesn't do them, but to contact our ped as a first step. I then bumped into my midwife and asked her about it, and she gave me the name of a specialist in our area, so I'm going to call and see what they say. I heard there's actually someone who will do it with a laser in Portland, OR, so I may call them as well. We have family down there, and a three hour drive wouldn't kill us.
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Re: Lip Tie in 13-month-old?

Curious to find out what you hear...my LO is also 13 mo and had an "un diagnosed" ULT. We don't have issues nursing (anymore...) and are also semi-weaning, and every dr/dentist I've spoken to wouldn't fix it. I'm worried about future dental issues, and speech delays (he didn't start babbling until 9-10 mo and still has no words)
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Re: Lip Tie in 13-month-old?

There is an amazing group on FB. Usually if there a LT there is a TT. PTT is very common and will cause many BFing problems.
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We just went through this. My son's pediatrician suggested he get his tongue tie clipped at 1 week old (I had no idea that was even a thing, but knew something was 'off with our nursing sessions that first week...just never gave up, as I had such success with my first born for over a year.) Anyway, things got better, but at about 3 months, I then noticed blebs, or whatever you want to call those white things, ( I hate them with a passion!) and when they'd appear I'd get horrible plugged ducts. I then noticed that HE started once again being very fussy on that one particular side (for me it was always the right side from day one that gave us troubles). He then had a particular day at 4 months old, that NOTHING would come out of that side for me. The side was so blocked up, it was a horrible day for both of us. It was then that I started calling anyone, and everyone related to lactation in our area. Something was NOT right. I would get so mad at the same old 'well, heat compresses and frequent nursing...you're doing what you are supposed to do! It was so frustrating! I'll bet I called 4-5 nurses, lactatation consultants, county health dept feeding instructors, etc, and the same old thing each time! It made me so frustrated, like no one 'got' the urgency in this ... that I was doing all these things and needed help finding the root of the problem! 2 months of this went on all summer. Every 2-4 days I'd plug up and have to manage for hours my own personal method of trying to get the milk out. you name it, I tried it, only to need to do it again 3 days later. Finally a La Leche league lady that had been very nice about sending me resources in an email (many of which I had already found on my own online though), emailed to see how it was going, and offered to stop in on a nursing session. In our conversation, she said she'd check for baby's anatomy to see if was all kosher. That's when my son's tongue tie came up. She was impressed that the dr. had discovered it, and then said, well, it's possible he has a lip tie. WHAT?! I quickly looked for pictures, and sure enough, he had very significant one. She came over later that week and confirmed. I scheduled an apt with our pediatrician, and while he was very observance about the toungue tie earlier, he seemed to misunderstand why I was in there for this time. He started checking the toungue again, and I had to really clarify, and said, NO! the la leche lady said uppler lip frenulum! He looked, and agreed it was very tight and thick. My boy had been gaining weight wonderfully, so he didn't say it was urgent, but said he didn't feel comfortable doing the procedure. So he sent us to an ENT specialist. Apparently they do the procedures too, not just ped dentists. So you might ask about that. the only problem I found was that my ENT guy gave me a crappy vibe about breastfeeding. He said, "Yeah, he has a pretty tight frenulum, but we'll have to use some local anesthetic and it will be a little harder then the toungue tie would have been. It's your call. It'd be mostly for you. He is eating right?" That answer really bothered me. It filled me with guilt.
Anyway, we decided to do it. It really wasn't bad at all. He used the snipping method. That day LO fed okay, but you could tell for a couple hours he was hurting. The next day ... you'd never know. Nursing got much better for a couple of weeks, even though the bleb never fully went away....AND I get plugged dcuts sometimes still, just not nearly as often.
I think for us, LO has developed a 'favorite side' because of those first 5 months, a lazy latch, and every now and then it causes some problems. But, I feel your pain! There is nothing more frustrating then this! Just wanted to let you know that in our town our ENT is who we went through!
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