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Old 10-05-2013, 09:41 AM   #11
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I have PCOS with insulin resistance, which is often associated with low supply. Additionally, I had no breast changes during pregnancy, and never experienced engorgement or leaking of any kind.

We had none of the typical problems in that DS's latch was perfect, I didn't have pain after the first few days, my thyroid was fine, and we never went longer than 2 hours between feedings. I went to see Jack Newman every week for the first couple months and his best guess was Insufficient Glandular Tissue, which is also common with PCOS.

I actually responded better to the pump than to DS and would get 3-4 distinct let downs. Unfortunately, each only lasted for 30-60 seconds and there would be 10 minutes in between letdowns. DS lost patience after a few minutes with no milk.
I'm really impressed that you worked so hard to nurse your lo. No change in breast tissue is a big reason to have low/no supply. good work mama :clap:

I'm also jealous that you could see Dr Newman in person. I had a lot of trouble with latches and other stuff and he was so good to email me back right away with my first. By the time 3 and 4 rolled around he had so many videos and articles up i didnt need to email him. But he is my first resource always for bfing issues. Without his advice I'm not sure I would have made it through bfing my los.

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Old 10-05-2013, 10:30 AM   #12
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I'm really impressed that you worked so hard to nurse your lo. No change in breast tissue is a big reason to have low/no supply. good work mama :clap:

I'm also jealous that you could see Dr Newman in person. I had a lot of trouble with latches and other stuff and he was so good to email me back right away with my first. By the time 3 and 4 rolled around he had so many videos and articles up i didnt need to email him. But he is my first resource always for bfing issues. Without his advice I'm not sure I would have made it through bfing my los.
He was really nice and helped me find easier ways to use the supplemental nurser. Unfortunately, he said I wasn't doing anything wrong, so there was nothing I could do to fix the problem. Unfortunately, we don't live in Toronto anymore (about 1.5 hours outside of the city now) so I won't be able to go to his clinic more than once this time around.
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Most women find that with each subsequent pregnancy there is more opportunity for breast tissue to grow and so their breastfeeding experience improves. Some breastmilk is better than none. If you got to 16 oz with your first, you should be able to exceed that amount this time around. Infants only need 25-32 oz of breastmilk, so you were producing at least 1/2! You can do it. See if you can't hook up with an IBCLC, LLL or some other breastfeeding support group now, so you will have excellent resources.
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Old 10-05-2013, 09:50 PM   #14
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I would love some advice on ensuring my supply will come in. Pregnant with my second and my first was born at 33 weeks and my milk supply never came in even after trying fenugreek. Thanks!
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So, its twins - does that mean breastfeeding is a no-go for me after previously experiencing low supply?
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Y'know, I think you do the best you can do...at least early on, some BM is better than no BM. I don't think there's anything wrong w/ supplementing if you need to, but I think that b/c of the likelihood of having multiples prior to 38 wks, there are a lot of reasons to BF as much as possible, even if you can't EBF.
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Re: Second baby - Low Supply with First UPDATE

not to hijack the thread, but previous posts mentioned medications to help with production such as metformin and reglan, etc... is that what you were taking it for or was it prescribed for PCOS?

I have been checked many times during fertility treatments and 100% do not have any PCOS and my thyroid functions perfectly... yet had horrid supply issues and a bad latch with DS... really want it to work this time around
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Old 10-28-2013, 09:21 AM   #18
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Y'know, I think you do the best you can do...at least early on, some BM is better than no BM. I don't think there's anything wrong w/ supplementing if you need to, but I think that b/c of the likelihood of having multiples prior to 38 wks, there are a lot of reasons to BF as much as possible, even if you can't EBF.


also i do remember that there are some things or at least something you take during the pregnancy to encourage tissue growth but i don't remember what it is. also are you up to considering domperidone? Its a big no in most of the US. Its over the counter for belly aches in my dh's country - think pepto - anyhow on the instructions the warnings/cautions include, may cause excess lactation. I develop plenty of tissue so i'm in a different boat but you might consider trying this anyhow. When i thought my supply was low I tried a combination of fenugreek and blessed thistle - the success rate of increasing supply is better if you try both together instead of one or the other. You probably already know all this but make sure you are taking enough fenugreek to smell like maple syrup. All i ended up doing to myself was getting engorged. It seems i didn't need more milk but I was trying everything bc my lo gained slowly and was very colicky.
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Re: Second baby - Low Supply with First UPDATE

I have IGT and bfing my first was a complete nightmare. I fought tooth and nail to make things work but only produced about 5-10% of what she needed for 3 weeks and then ran totally dry. 4 years later I had my second. I was more prepared this time. I had goats rue, more milk plus, go lacta, placenta capsules, SNS, books, lactation meetings while still preggo... The list goes on... The good news is I could tell I had more milk this time! I had a bit more growth during pregnancy. The milk came in on day 4 instead of 6. And I was bigger and fuller when it came in than the first time. (Sadly though my baby was born with no thyroid gland and in the NiCU for 58 days! EPing spells complete doom for me so even tho I knew I had more milk, less came out.) But I just know if I'd been able to nurse or at least HOLD my baby, I would have had more this time!!! I hope you do too!!! Good luck! But remember if it doesn't work, you are a rock star just for trying and an amazing mama no matter what. <3
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