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Old 07-30-2007, 06:19 PM   #1
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Hi, does anyone have this allergy or do your kids? How did you find out? I'm am needing information for a little 10 month old baby that I watch. It really seems like he has this. I only watch him 2 days a week so I can't see all his reactions, but I've talked with his mom about the possibility of him having it and she thinks it's a possibility too.

She was feeding him apples in the mesh feeder and his chin was always red and chapped looking and she had no clue why, neither did I. She'd put aquaphor on it and it wasn't going away, etc. One day it finally cleared up and I was watching him and I gave him an apple in the mesh feeder. Well his chin flared up again. I was thinking maybe the juice from the apple chapped it up again? Told his mom that it happened, etc. Then just last week when he was over I gave him a peach in the mesh feeder. His entire neck broke out in little hives all over. they started to go away about 40 mins after, but I gave him benadryl anyways (1/2 dose) then they fully went away and I put him down for a nap. I discussed the possilibiltity that maybe something in fruit was making him break out and get hives and she agreed. She stopped giving him apples and his chin cleared right up again. Today I gave him peas and his chin got just a little red and so did one of his cheecks. Agh. I looked up this allergy and the foods and it says that peas have a low level of salicylate, apples have a low to moderate level based on the type of apple and peaches have a high. Do you think it sounds like he has this?? He had just a little break out with peas, a little more with apples and a pretty big break out with peaches.

He does perfectly fine with all baby jar food and the information about this allergy says that these foods can be tolerated when cooked or sometimes peeled because it gets rid of most of the salicylate during those processes, which is why I"m thinking he's okay with baby food because that food is cooked then pureed and then watered down?

Any ideas of what else it could be and I'm not thinking about?? He's been very clingy lately (most days) since starting table foods too and I'm wondering if the salicylate is making his tummy upset?

Any advice?? His mama is a first time mom and hasn't dealt with any of this before. I had fun determining my sons allergies, but none this complicated (there's so many foods with salicylate!) Also, he is allergic to eggs...he broke out head to toe with hives and has an epi-pen now for that.

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Old 07-30-2007, 08:34 PM   #2
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You know, that's funny. I wonder if this could be what I have...My lips, tongue and mouth swell and tingle when I eat peaches, sometimes apples, and cherries. Other fruits and veggies sometimes do it, too. I wonder if I could be sensitive to it? I'd just continue to discuss it with the Mom and maybe suggest she have him tested. Avoid the foods when he is with you, just in case.
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Yes, a salicylate allergy/sensitivity is very real. Feingold.org is one of the best places to get information on this and they have a fantastic support group. There is a yahoo group that you can join for free that will answer all sorts of questions.

However, since he is actually getting rashes when he eats this stuff I REALLY suggest going to an allergy specialist immediately. A good one. The pea reaction scares me because it is a legume. My daughter reacted to peas with little red dots all over her chin and at first I thought it was just because she was poking her chin with her fork. I also didn't realize that pea and peanut were in the same family. When she wound up eating a bite of my peanut butter toast she had an anaphylactic reaction. He needs to be tested properly, without the guess and check method, for his allergies to make sure there is nothing serious going on. We had no history of any food allergies on either side of the family, let alone peanut allergy, so it definitely came as a shock to us. We are now the proud owners of Epi Pens.

But definitely check out Feingold. They have a fabulous list of all the fruits and other things to avoid. If he is sensitive to salicylate's there is a good chance he will also be sensitive to food coloring and food flavoring as he gets older and is exposed to them more.
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You know, that's funny. I wonder if this could be what I have...My lips, tongue and mouth swell and tingle when I eat peaches, sometimes apples, and cherries. Other fruits and veggies sometimes do it, too. I wonder if I could be sensitive to it? I'd just continue to discuss it with the Mom and maybe suggest she have him tested. Avoid the foods when he is with you, just in case.
Yep, sounds like that's it.
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YES!!! I had allergy testing donea year ago because this is exactly how I felt. I have confirmed allergies to: Peaches, peas, cherries, apples (thats a big one) celery and carrots (both of those are big too). I can eat ALL of those items, but only if they are cooked. My allergist said the protiens change when they are cooked. And it is true, as long as they are cooked I do not feel sick to my tummy, no tingleing mouth, lips or tongue, and no swelling either.

I would suggest feeding him only cooked friuts and veggies for a while.

On a side note: I wasn't allergic to any foods until my first child was born??? My allergist told me that is common
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When he had his reaction to eggs and got hives head to toe, I told her that she should take him to the allergist right away. Her dr. didn't though, just gave her an epi-pen and told her no more eggs? It was my understanding that young children if they have a serious reaction they should see an allergist ASAP and find out what else, if any to avoid because you don't want another serious reaction! She's a first time mom and really "follows" what her dr. says. She also is worried about him being allergic to different things and having lots of allergies so it seems to me she'd kinda avoiding it. She just told me "well I'll watch him close and we'll see". It's frustrating me, because I don't like doing that! She's a nurse, if that makes any difference, but I've got 3 kids of my own and I hate when he has a reaction here especially right before I'm supposed to put him down for a nap....errr.

I have to say the first couple of time I watched him before he started table foods he was awesome! Such a happy baby so easy to deal, now he is clingy, he screams bloody murder unless I am holding him??? Totally different kid and I'm just wondering if these are causing tummy problems and he just doesn't feel good. He won't play on the ground ever! He won't even let me face him out when I'm holding him. My 16 month old is getting very jealous...LOL. I only watch him 1-2 days a week, so it's not too much trouble, but I do think something is causing this behavior besides just getting a little separation anxiety (which he didn't have at all before).

I don't know what else to tell her!
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Um whoa! Not okay. As a doctor he should not be giving our Epi Pens without also referring her to a specialist. I can see him giving her an Epi Pen to tide her over until they can meet with a specialist but serioulsy? Doctors are great but they don't specialize in allergies. Usually their knowledge is behind the times and plus they have too many other things to be knowledgable in. An allergy specialist strictly deals with allergies day in and day out. They are also aware of what type of food families he is most likely to be allergic to and can give her better training on feeding him.

If I were her I would stop all solids until she can meet with a professional but perhaps he is too well established on them now to quit. She needs to meet with a specialist right away. The whole wait and see thing is a really foolish way to go. It only takes seconds to have an anaphylactic reaction, seconds. Does she keep the Epi pens with you while you keep him? You need to have one with you. The chances of this kid having a nut allergy are really high.

The problem with allergies as well is that if you eat a food you are allergic to and are unaware that you are allergic to it you are potentially increasing your allergy level every time you consume it so that the condition actually worsens.

Plus, it is not good for children that young to use Epi Pens. They are not even recommended for children under 30 lbs but using an Epi Pen is better than them dying from anaphlyactic shock, KWIM? Also Epi Pens themselves can have bad side effects, it's not something to toy around with. Epi Pens are for an emergency response to a known allergy. Not to be used to catch a reaction should one occur to a food you are unaware that the child is allergic to.

Anyway, I'm sorry I'm not trying to harp on you I am just awed at the level of ignorance and blaze attitude that some people have towards using Epi Pens. My own family does the same thing. "Well if she accidentally eats a peanut you can just give her the pen, it's not a big deal." It's a very big deal!

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When he had his reaction to eggs and got hives head to toe, I told her that she should take him to the allergist right away. Her dr. didn't though, just gave her an epi-pen and told her no more eggs? It was my understanding that young children if they have a serious reaction they should see an allergist ASAP and find out what else, if any to avoid because you don't want another serious reaction! She's a first time mom and really "follows" what her dr. says. She also is worried about him being allergic to different things and having lots of allergies so it seems to me she'd kinda avoiding it. She just told me "well I'll watch him close and we'll see". It's frustrating me, because I don't like doing that! She's a nurse, if that makes any difference, but I've got 3 kids of my own and I hate when he has a reaction here especially right before I'm supposed to put him down for a nap....errr.

I have to say the first couple of time I watched him before he started table foods he was awesome! Such a happy baby so easy to deal, now he is clingy, he screams bloody murder unless I am holding him??? Totally different kid and I'm just wondering if these are causing tummy problems and he just doesn't feel good. He won't play on the ground ever! He won't even let me face him out when I'm holding him. My 16 month old is getting very jealous...LOL. I only watch him 1-2 days a week, so it's not too much trouble, but I do think something is causing this behavior besides just getting a little separation anxiety (which he didn't have at all before).

I don't know what else to tell her!
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And yes, he probably doesn't feel good. He is probably also sensitive or allergic to one of the biggies: soy, dairy or gluten.

I watched a kid that was the same way and his parents kind of gave up on identifying his allergies and just fed him whatever. His poor body was covered in awful exzema (sp?), he always had diaper rashes and he was a very violent, miserable, crying 16 month old. Very sad. I had to stop watching him I was so fed up. He also had a peanut allergy and the Epi pen.
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Anyway, I'm sorry I'm not trying to harp on you I am just awed at the level of ignorance and blaze attitude that some people have towards using Epi Pens. My own family does the same thing. "Well if she accidentally eats a peanut you can just give her the pen, it's not a big deal." It's a very big deal!
I think it's a very big deal! My son had an allergic reaction and I've spent the last 2 years going to so many allergist appointments because we cannot figure it out. She has not given me an epi-pen because she knows i have one already for my son (epi-pen Jr.) that I keep with me at all times. But yes, I am right there with you. I've told her like 7 times over the last month to get an allergist appointment and she still hasn't called. She thinks he's too young or something. He used to be so happy and now he's not! That's why I posted here, just trying to make sure I'm not out of line for thinking he has this or something! Because I seriously bring it up all the time with her and she's always like I'll stop giving him that one thing for a while and try again later...like he's going to grow out of it. She says, yeah I should talk to an allergist, I'll see what my dr says.

I cannot believe her dr. hasn't giving her a referral to the allergist, I'm so appalled, actually! She's a nurse in the ER so I would think she would know how serious it is and want to figure it out, but I dunno? I sent her another email today so we'll see. I hope I'm not bugging her, but if I get fired for being too nosy about her sons health, well I don't care, I feel so bad for this little guy he's miserable. He used to just play on the ground so nicely with my kids, not anymore!
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On a side note: I wasn't allergic to any foods until my first child was born??? My allergist told me that is common

Sorry to highjack - but I became allergic to wheat after our first child was born. I wish I knew why this happens after pregnancy.
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