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Old 07-30-2006, 04:40 AM   #31
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One more thing, I also dont vax. lucky to find a dr that will see me. I cant imagine giving my 4 month old so many shots so soon. I might think about giving them when she is 2.
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Old 07-30-2006, 11:47 AM   #32
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I wasnt implying that you thought the vaxes cause autism, I've just read alot from people who do believe that lately.

Secondly, "a little pill" doesnt help ALL people with ADHD. The best treatment is a combination of medication, behavior modification or therapy. (doesnt have to be all those, but a combination is best). My daughter does take medication for her ADHD. Finding the right med & the right dose hasnt been fun. And somedays, the ADHD just overpowers the whole "system" we have in place for her & nothing works. We've got her on meds, behavior mod, therapy, dietary changes, cutting out allergens, you name it. We have good days & we have bad days. Depending on severity & other issues present, a child with ADHD can also grow into an adult that cannot function on their own in society. And the Dr is still considering a diagnosis of Pervasive Developmental Disorder for my daughter which is a form autism. Do I regret getting her vaccinated, no, do I get my youngest vaccinated, yes & on schedule & I will vaccinate any future children as well. As for being a health care provider, I am a social worker. I provide services for children & famililes with ADHD, Autism & other behavior/developmental disorders in the schools, community & home. My area of service is all aspects of mental health.
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Old 07-30-2006, 02:03 PM   #33
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And lots of other health care professionals believe that NOT vaccinating and instead keeping your children in good health through diet and exercise are the most important things you can do for your kids' health.

and not only this, but ALLOWING them exposure to normal childhood illness, so that their immune systems can GROW!!! how about that! It works like a charm....Isnt God amazing??
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Old 07-30-2006, 02:20 PM   #34
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and not only this, but ALLOWING them exposure to normal childhood illness, so that their immune systems can GROW!!! how about that! It works like a charm....Isnt God amazing??
Exactly! We have amazing immune systems.
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Old 07-30-2006, 07:53 PM   #35
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I have had my dd vaxed at all the appropriate times and she has CP do i blame vaxes no. I do havd to say ADHD is not at all a death sentence nor is Autisim they can be very smart. I do know what its like to deal with a child who can't understand simple commands my dd has 90% brain damage which may go unnoticed til shes 5. and EI has been a blessind dd looked at her yellow dipe yesterday and said yellow boat of course its not a boat. I am not gonna attack you because the choice is yours
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Old 07-30-2006, 07:58 PM   #36
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also treat your child like a blessing not like there is something wrong that is the best therapy in the world and with this they will thrive.
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Old 07-30-2006, 11:04 PM   #37
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also treat your child like a blessing not like there is something wrong that is the best therapy in the world and with this they will thrive.
I do treat my child like a blessing. That's why I don't want to see him hurt. It has nothing to do with not loving or cherishing my son. "They can be very smart" is not much of a comfort, I'm afraid. It's not what *I* want. It's not that I want to say "my son is smart". Intelligence has nothing to do with it. It has to do with *his happiness*. And I can tell you right now that autistic children are smart...you are right...smart enough to know that they are different, that they are uncomfortable doing many of the same things as other children, that strange things freak them out, that they have obsessions they absolutely can not control.

It is not for MY sake that I worry about my son. I don't see why you would feel based on my posts that I don't think my child is a blessing. As for not treating him like something is wrong, newsflash: something IS wrong. If he had cancer, I sure as heck wouldn't treat him like nothing was wrong. I would do something about it.

"Treat(ing) your child like a blessing...is the best therapy in the world..." If only. Please. If loving, caring for, paying attention to, crying for, crying with, holding, attachment parenting, and spending about 23.5 of every 24 hours focusing entirely on a child were "the best therapy," my child would not only be talking, he'd be reciting the Gettysburg Address by now and penning his very first thesis.

Platitudes are nice but they aren't keeping at least one stranger every shopping trip from throwing poison-dart glares at my apparently "misbehaving" son or outright making nasty comments, loudly, at and to him. (Most recently it was a cashier saying, "Don't be such a crybaby! Why are you a crybaby? We don't cry in this store!")

I really wish by now that I had never asked for help at all on the vax issue since it has brought out of the woodwork plenty of people who have decided that either my ideas are bogus, or that I don't cherish my child enough. People, please. If you could come to my house and see how much of our world revolves entirely around this child who we cry for every day as he encounters stumbling block after stumbling block and nasty comment after nasty comment, you might think before you post.

To those of you who addressed the actual questions, thank you so much. I have signed up for two groups...one for HFA and one for apraxia of speech. I hope to meet up with other moms who actually understand, like you do. 99% of the time I encounter scepticism, condemnation and/or erroneous commentary, as you can see. It sucks. Big time. It sucks to have to fight each and every day to be understood.
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Old 07-30-2006, 11:10 PM   #38
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Mods...would you be kind enough to delete that thread? Can that be done on this forum? I encounter so much of this lack of knowledge (and unwillingness to listen) about HFA in real life that I can't believe I opened myself up to getting it here too. I was asking an honest question...and instead got tons of sideways accusations. I don't want to be in the position of having to convince perfect strangers that I cherish my son or "professionals" that I know anything at all about the nature of what I'm posting about. The lack of knowledge about HFA and erroneous statements about vax and what they actually contain is all over this thread and it only makes me angrier as I realize my son will encounter just as much of this, as not more, as he gets older. So please...before really bad words fly, if you would delete, I would appreciate it...thank you.
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Old 07-31-2006, 12:19 AM   #39
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Hugs to you momma! I am POSITIVE you see your child as a blessing!

who knows what that was about, We can clearly see you love your DC.

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Mods...would you be kind enough to delete that thread? Can that be done on this forum? I encounter so much of this lack of knowledge (and unwillingness to listen) about HFA in real life that I can't believe I opened myself up to getting it here too. I was asking an honest question...and instead got tons of sideways accusations. I don't want to be in the position of having to convince perfect strangers that I cherish my son or "professionals" that I know anything at all about the nature of what I'm posting about. The lack of knowledge about HFA and erroneous statements about vax and what they actually contain is all over this thread and it only makes me angrier as I realize my son will encounter just as much of this, as not more, as he gets older. So please...before really bad words fly, if you would delete, I would appreciate it...thank you.
Are you sure? (pm me) I think this is a very helpful thread! I'm sorry your request for support and information turned into a debate on whether or not vax is necessary....I was pretty sure thats not what you asked in the beginning....

Just to remind everyone, please keep in mind WHY a thread is started. The one thing that is really hard to see is a thread asking for support to turn into debate. If you would like to start a civil debate/discussion on the necessity of vax, please start a new thread titled so.
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