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Old 09-16-2006, 10:56 AM   #21
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Re: Doc wants me to supplement AGAIN???

My girl has always been a major spitter I suspect dairy allergies but I am not sure. Some docs do think feeding formula will stop the spitting up but that is a myth I highly reccomened a pediatrician that is going to be more supportive of breastfeeding. Also, suggesting that they may need to jump to surgery right away is absurd. My daughter has spit up so much, she used to spit up 2 or 3 times for every feeding and trust me she had a lot of feedings. Just burp frequently, and watch diaper output and growth if those are good your doing great, spit up is not a health problem if babies are growing good and have good diaper output.
My LC also told me not to worry about what I eat and that she will "get used to it" and my ped said the same thing. Which is why I have not tried eliminating dairy. I do think it would help if we could afford to do a special diet we would.

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Old 09-25-2006, 12:06 PM   #22
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Re: Doc wants me to supplement AGAIN???

My son, until 4mo, spit up terribly! I really was concerned how he could gain wt while so much came up! But he was gaining Because he was gaining (and wetting like crazy!), I knew he was fine. He was not bothered by the spitting, either. So it boiled down to a laundry issue. Sometimes pumping in advance (I later discovered I have an overproduction issue AND overly forceful letdown.), burping him more during the feeding or feeding him less at a time, more frequently helped. But not always. Good luck! I really think that as long as your child is gaining wt well, voiding enough, and not terribly bothered by spitting, all will be fine. Your child will likely outgrow it as it's belly gets bigger! Hang in there. Don't supplement. It only increases problems.
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Old 09-25-2006, 01:18 PM   #23
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Re: Doc wants me to supplement AGAIN???

It's definately worth eliminating dairy from your diet, but read food labels carfully, they put milk products is so many things...
It takes up to 2 weeks for your body to fully eliminate dairy out of your system.
Both my babies spat up a record amount!! It could be more of a 'laundry problem'-Have lots of bibs at hand-saves on washing. At least is was in my case.

Question: Does your baby seem excessively cranky before during and after spitting up? If not, it's probably a laundry issue. If, so it could be an allergy(but not necessarily). As soon as my baby spits up, she's as happy as can be, other times I get no warning, and she projectile vomits on the carpet.
Other times nothing helps her crankiness.

We should always listen to our doctors (to a certain point). Many docs don't know the first thing about Breastfeeding Super frustrating...
As always, I recommend calling your local La Leche leader. They know more about BFing than the majority of doctors...

Don't worry too much...Good Luck
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Old 09-25-2006, 01:50 PM   #24
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Re: Doc wants me to supplement AGAIN???

I'd give eliminating dairy first and see how that goes. Formula will only make it worse, IMO. Your breastmilk is perfect for her.

Go to Dr Sears website, I'll get the link, too, and look at the chicken and rice diet, just something to think about if dairy doesn't help.

But some babies just puke a lot. My DD did until she was about 15 months old. But she was gaining weight and didn't have any other issues, so we didn't do the meds or the special formula and she was fine.

I'd definately get a 2nd opinion and maybe see a nutrition specialist, someone that is pro-BFig so they can help you! I'd also take her for weekly weigh ins so that you can make sure she is gaining in spite of all the spitting up. She is only 7 weeks old, their little systems are still pretty immautre.

Hang in there mama!
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Old 09-25-2006, 01:52 PM   #25
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Here's the link I was talking about

http://www.askdrsears.com/html/4/T041200.asp
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Old 09-25-2006, 07:26 PM   #26
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if she does have reflux I would try taking her to the chiropractor
i agree with this. helped my spitter more than anything else. well, that and cutting out dairy.
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Oh...yes, do take her to a chiro. They can work wonders. To find the best in your area for a peds chiro, check out www.icpa4kids.org and you'll be good to go! Also, my friends babies were all allergic to milk. When she had dairy they would spit-up. She also took them to a chiro.

Don't do formulas mama, stick with exclusively BFing your baby. A note on soy, soy is NOT recommended for children. Soy depletes your body of minerals. You can read more info on this by researching articles at www.cure-guide.com. This doc has a holistic pediatric site, and either the articles about avoiding soy are on there or his main site.
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Re: Doc wants me to supplement AGAIN???

FIND A NEW PED.

Seriously, that is some of the *worst* bf'ing advice you could have been given.

Don't give pedialyte - its purpose is to treat dehydration in *formula fed babies* and *toddlers/young children no longer breastfed*. It has no place in a bf babies tummy b/c breastmilk is an excellent hydrating liquid (but formula is not).

Don't give Soy formula - if your baby has a sensitive tummy, soy formula and milk formula will only make it worse - they are much much harder to digest than bm.

Examine your diet - Dairy and Soy are two very common causes of intestinal upset and spitting up - especially dairy. i had to cut both completely out of my diet so if you need help or support in that area please PM me .

My DS used to have projectile vomit every day or two until i cut both dairy and soy out completely - and since i did that he *never* spits up like that anymore.

Being a preemie can also affect her in this area, and she could have an issue like reflux. Supplementing would only be for if you had a low supply and she was dehydrated - but it sounds like you have plenty of milk! Don't jeopardize it by supplementing.

www.kellymom.com is another excellent source of info and support.
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Surgery? Woah try some other optiosn first.

Anyway, I had problems that sound identical & I cut out dairy & it went away.

And I do mean ALL dairy - don't just think no milk consumption is dairy free - you have to read EVERYTHING. Even potatoe chips have milk sometimes! Remember butter too... it was hard but after a while got used to it.
Ditto ditto ditto

Pediatricians are not all trained to know how to handle ebf mamas. Nowadays, so many moms are ffing that they often think that's the "answer" when in reality, ff is so much more harsh on a little one's tummy, and MORE likely to cause problems than help.
You may need to figre out what's in your diet that you need to cut out.
Start with dairy. Then think about broccoli and things like that.
check kellymom for more info. . . that is an awesome site with lots and lots of great bfing info
here's the link to the food intolerance/sensitivity page.
http://www.kellymom.com/babyconcerns...nsitivity.html

Also- Don't Supplement if you don't want to !! There's no reason to!!!
Now, it could be something else entirely, like reflux. But try those other things first. Then, get a new ped.

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