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Old 04-18-2008, 12:10 PM   #1
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Any Unschoolers on DS?

I guess I am way out in left field, even among the homeschoolers.

We have been practicing child-led schooling from day one with our children. I follow where her interests are and try to make everything we do a learning experience, instead of pressuring her with a curriculum.

My dd is 7 y/o and reading on her own, doing math on a second grade level or above, and still very enthusiastic and inquisitive. She wants to take piano lessons.

I also have a 4y/o dd who has been slower to master the basics, but has just taken off like a rocket recently. She is writing her ABC's and learning phonics now. She loves workbooks and math, too.

I see my job as their parent/teacher is to provide them with whatever they need while they learn instinctively just by being curious kids. I was worried at first about this approach, but I have really seen how it does work and I feel it is the best thing for my kids.

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Old 04-18-2008, 04:33 PM   #2
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Re: Any Unschoolers on DS?

If you are left feild we are just outside the fence! We unschool, yes, but even more weird, to some, is that we are radical unschoolers. We apply it to everything in our lives. We have no bedtimes, no chores and the list goes on.

Today, while eating lunch as a family I said "we haven't 'ate' like this in a while" because we haven't been actually sitting down at the table and eating together lately. Marti (who will be 8 in July) said to me, "Mom, it's 'eaten' not 'ate'. This girl has been to 1/2 a year of preschool and 3 weeks of Kindergarten. We have never had success with a curriculum (I tried for 2 weeks in what would have been 1st grade and for 2 weeks at the beginning of this year) and has *never* had an English lesson in her entire life!

I am sure you have, but have you checked out Sandra Dodd's website? www.sandradodd.com/unschooling? or Joyce's www.joyfullyrejoycing.com? I highly recommend them, but I am probably scaring even you
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nak-we do! we are working towards ru, but I'm having some trouble letting go of control...
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nak-we do! we are working towards ru, but I'm having some trouble letting go of control...
Oh, me too and we have been slowly working toward it for three years. We don't have too much left now, though. My hardest one is food. I just don't want them to be overweight like me.
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Re: Any Unschoolers on DS?

Just a question, but how does this help to prepare them for higher education, such as high school and college? This isn't meant to be snarky, it's an honest question. How does this prepare a child educationally for their future in the way that a structured curriculum would?
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I am curious too
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Re: Any Unschoolers on DS?

I know this is dumb...but I have no idea or anything about unschooling...so don't flame for the honest question...but do the children learn how to add and stuff....do you teach them how to add/subtract/multiply...etc because if you do aren't you educating them in that way?? I am just very curious and not trying to be snarky or anything
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Just a question, but how does this help to prepare them for higher education, such as high school and college? This isn't meant to be snarky, it's an honest question. How does this prepare a child educationally for their future in the way that a structured curriculum would?
But How Will They Ever Learn to Stand in Line?
http://www.livefreelearnfree.com/10Reichard.htm

College or Not?
http://www.livefreelearnfree.com/1Kowalke.htm

In fact there are a ton of other articles here that might be of interest.
http://www.livefreelearnfree.com/UR/...F_Articles.htm

Here are some other links about college
http://sandradodd.com/college
http://www.joyfullyrejoycing.com/uns...tocollege.html
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I know this is dumb...but I have no idea or anything about unschooling...so don't flame for the honest question...but do the children learn how to add and stuff....do you teach them how to add/subtract/multiply...etc because if you do aren't you educating them in that way?? I am just very curious and not trying to be snarky or anything
Yes. My children have learned how to add, but I don't do lessons or use a curriculum. My oldest actually learned her multiplication facts BEFORE her addiction facts due to a video game. This game is amazing.
http://www.bigbrainz.com/HowToPlay.html

A couple other links on math (because you mentioned math specifically), if you are interested...

What about Math?
http://www.livefreelearnfree.com/6ONeal.htm

Sandra Dodd
http://sandradodd.com/math/

And Joyce Feteroll has several links
Senselessness of school math
http://www.joyfullyrejoycing.com/aca...choolmath.html
Speaking Math
http://www.joyfullyrejoycing.com/aca...akingmath.html
Unschooling Math
http://www.joyfullyrejoycing.com/aca...olingmath.html
Math
http://www.joyfullyrejoycing.com/aca...math/math.html
Math Programs
http://www.joyfullyrejoycing.com/aca...hprograms.html
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Just a question, but how does this help to prepare them for higher education, such as high school and college? This isn't meant to be snarky, it's an honest question. How does this prepare a child educationally for their future in the way that a structured curriculum would?
I provided a bunch of links, but then thought...

Maybe she doesn't want to read all that so I pulled a few quotes out. I can't testify to the college question because my oldest is 8, but I trust her to do what is best for her.

I can say that at this point, it doesn't look like she will follow a traditional college route. She wants to be a mom. She loves babies and she wants to be able to stay at home with them. That said, she has also expressed interest in being a homebirth midwife. We have a local midwife that teaches that outside the typical college setting.

I do hear that most unschoolers who choose to go to college do great because that is in fact their choice and they haven't been stuffed full of curriculum for the past 13 years. I know that I had had plenty of curriculum by the time I graduated and chose to wait on college. I am 27 and still waiting because now I have kids. My kids won't be so full of "institutionalization" and curriculum that if they want to go to college they will succeed at a high level.

Anyway, those quotes...

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I was always taught to train them for a higher goal including reaching for the best financially or otherwise.

Again, standard American dream. But how does it turn out in truth?

Standard thought is that school prepares kids for life. But how many kids is that true for? We want to believe it's true. We focus on the kids who appear to be models of success. We find ways of explaining the failures of school -- and point to causes other than school like unmotivated kids and uncaring parents and bad environment that school can't compensate for.

But in general -- not in every case, but in general -- people find success to be an elusive goal and the happiness that was promised with it never quite there.

If pursuing the American Dream led to happiness, then everyone who set out on the path to pursue it would be happy. But they aren't. And some people who reject the American Dream are happy.

Since pursuing the American Dream isn't a guarantee and some people find happiness without pursuing the American Dream, there's some other factor involved.

That other factor is what unschooling is about. It dispenses with the false hopes dangled by the American Dream and focuses on joy being the goal.
Ooooh! Here is an article on about.com
http://homeschooling.about.com/od/hi...oolcollege.htm

Here is a really good article.
http://www.nhen.org/nhen/pov/teens/default.asp?id=23

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The day before Cassidy started college, he showed me his text books and predicted that he would make the Dean's List. I was glad to hear that he was so confident, but had a few (unexpressed, I'm proud to say) doubts. After all, this would be his first experience with formal learning. All his life he had decided what, when, how, and with whom he would learn. We trusted him to be learning all the time, even though what he chose to do almost never looked like "Education." We didn't use text books, lessons, tests, or grades. We tried to answer his questions and help him gain access to the real world when he asked for assistance. We tried to give him only as much help or information as he wanted, without turning every question into a "Learning Opportunity." We didn't divide the world into subjects like math, handwriting, spelling, yet he learned all that in the process of living his life.

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Yes, Cassidy made the Dean's List. Does this mean that unschooling is the method I'm recommending as a way to turn kids into scholars? No. I believe that all of us are brilliant and talented in our own way. Howard Gardner, Harvard scholar and author of Multiple Intelligences and The Unschooled Mind and much more, identifies seven kinds of intelligence. All of us are born with varying degrees of spatial, musical, bodily-kinesthetic, interpersonal, intrapersonal, logical-mathematical, and linguistic intelligence.

*****SNIP*****

All children are born with the drive -- the need -- to grow into responsible, effective adults who fit into and contribute to their families, communities, and the world. Can you imagine what would have happened to the human race thousands of years ago if this were not true? It's a natural process. but parents and teachers can thwart nature by trying to force (or motivate, bribe, trick, persuade, or coerce) children into ways of learning and being that go against their wonderful, brilliant, unique intelligence.
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