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My ds#1 is adhd. We are having a hard time with him in school. He is on meds but the conventional classroom is not the place for him but we are having problems finding a school that will fit him. That is the hardest part for us right now.

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I can only keep my 2yo occupied with a book for a few minutes on his own. toys dont work because everything involves active play with him.
He won't sit and listen to a CD, won't stay in his room if i put him there (unless I were to lock the door!)!

He is so very young. I can sympathize as my 19 month old is like that as well. This sounds really mean but we actually have to hold him down to take a nap at times. He fights us all the way but after 10 minutes or so, he relents and falls asleep. When he is extremely hyper, he is actually extremely tired. He is the most strong willed child ever. I know he is very young and way too early to diagnose, I really wouldn't be surprised if he is dx some day.

Try to get rid of as much stimulus as possible. Limit distractions, take out as much toys as possible during the quiet time and put on some soothing music - Yep, I pretty much feel like a hypocrite as I should take this advice and follow through. Good grief it's hard. My little one is a climber, too - constantly.
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My ds#1 is adhd. We are having a hard time with him in school. He is on meds but the conventional classroom is not the place for him but we are having problems finding a school that will fit him. That is the hardest part for us right now.
It is hard. Is he on a 504 or IEP? Do they let him stand and even move around as needed. They really need to give frequent breaks and let him do work in a quite area as needed. It is hard in the traditional school setting but he can excel at the right school with a creative and understanding team. Hang in there!!
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My DS is 11yrs. now and he has ADHD. I mean he is the "poster" child for it. He has mood swings, depression, ODD etc. I have had him on trials of lots of differ. meds. Most of the meds I didnt like,it seemed as if his personality was gone. It was SAD. He wouldnt join in with groups he was calm but not in a good way. I now have him on a non stimulate called Straterra and he is VERY active still but can focus better. Also we switched his diet last yr. to NO ARTIFICAL COLORS/ FLAVORS. No processed foods, we try to watch his sugar intake as well. He did a complete 180. He still has things that come along with ADHD but it's manageable now. It was hard because he is a picky eater, but after a month he got lots better. He is also in counsling for his moods. He now knows to ask before he eats something someone else offers, and he choose organic friendly foods. I also have my younger boys and all of us eating this way. It a AWESOME feeling.

Also you should get Omega-3 with the DHA. I have read studies with people/kids being treated with this for ADHD, ODD and Bipolar. It was interesting

Sorry so long Let me know if I can answer any ?'s about anything. I have joined ADHD support groups also.
My son is on Focllin XR 10mg morning and Focllin 5 mg after school this is a booster for him to be able to get thru the rest of the day w/homework ect. H e have tried a few others (Concerta this worked but then stopped working for him,Daytrana patch didnt not work!! )but he has been on this for 1 1/2yrs and this has worked out the best for him but he takes non generic form ,once they gave him the generic and it made him switch my poor baby! He was diagnosed @ 5 and sees a Pediatrician that specializes in disorders in cildren.
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Do any of your kids have a hard time at school with not having friends? Mine rather hang out with his teacher? I ask him who he plays with and he says "nobody wants to play with me at school ,nobody wants to play what I want to play so I just walk around" Thia makes me so sad
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Oh and do any of your kids have this problem?



SOILING PANTS (ENCOPRESIS)
Soiling pants, medically known as encopresis, is much more common in boys than in girls. It occurs more in children with a strong sense of privacy or a strong tendency to concentrate on an activity to the point that they are unwilling to stop long enough to use the toilet. By understanding why this unpleasant problem occurs, you can help your child master his bowel habits.


Why it happens?
This is how I explain pant soiling to a child. The bowel, like the bladder, sends a signal to the brain: "I need emptying." (Draw a picture of the bowel below and the brain above and connect the two by an arrow, and refer to this diagram as you explain to the child.) When your bowel is full, it tells the brain it needs emptying, and the brain says: "Go to the nearest toilet." (This defecation reflex, or urge to empty the bowel, automatically occurs in persons with healthy bowel habits.) If you listen to what your brain tells you, bowel and brain continue to talk to each other; you go to the toilet when necessary, and your pants stay clean.


But suppose you don't listen to your brain, either because you're too busy, too lazy, or you just plain can't hear what your bowel and brain say. In this case, they stop talking to each other. The bowel lets go whenever it wants to and there's poop in your pants. Usually a doughnut muscle at the opening of your bowel squeezes closed to help keep the poop inside until you can get to the toilet. Sometimes this muscle gets lazy and opens up. Sometimes you smell it before you feel it.


If you don't listen to your bowel signals the poop gets big and hard and won't come out. This weakens the doughnut muscle around the bowel. It doesn't "feel" when the bowel is full, and you get all plugged up. It's called constipation; it feels uncomfortable. That's when you have two types of bowel movements, "hard poop" and "soft poop." The hard poop stays in your bowel and the soft poop - sometimes it's even watery - leaks around the hard poop, and you don't even feel it until it's in your pants. The longer this goes on, the harder the poop gets, the weaker the doughnut muscle gets, and the less bowel and the brain talk to each other.


So how can we keep this from happening? you ask. (Encourage the child to answer.) Always listen to what your bowel tells you. Instead of being busy and not paying attention to your body, go to the toilet as soon as your bowel says, "I'm full." Next, you can keep your poop from getting hard. See constipation.


Busy little bowels. Keep (with your child's help) a diary of when your child soils his pants. What triggers holding on to the bowel movements and what triggers letting go? Does he poop when he is stressed in group play? Is he so engrossed in play that he ignores his bowel signals? Little boys with little bowels are forgetful. If your diary detects a correlation between play and soiling, call this connection to your child's attention. "As soon as you feel bowel pressure, go sit on the toilet. Don't hold on to it."


Embarrassed little bowels. Some children are embarrassed about toileting. Rather than let their playmates know they have to go to the toilet or ask the teacher to go to the bathroom, they ignore bowel signals; consciously or subconsciously they convince themselves - and their full bowel - that they really don't have to go. Impress upon your child that toileting is as normal as eating. Everyone does it. Perhaps some children can't imagine their teacher ever having to go to the bathroom.


Lazy little bowels. Some children don't want to "waste time" going to the toilet. Rather than interrupt play, expending the effort to go all the way to the toilet, get undressed, redressed, and reenter play, the child ignores his body signals. To help your child do his own toileting quickly, have simple elastic bands on pants and shorts.

Blocked little bowels. Paradoxically, the most common medical cause of pant soiling that I see in my office is constipation. This diagnosis surprises parents ("But it runs out…") What soils the pants is the soft, watery stool that leaks past the hard feces. By examining your child, the doctor can tell if constipation is the culprit. See constipation.

7 WAYS TO MINIMIZE PANT SOILING (ENCOPRESIS)
1.Figure out what triggers the pant-soiling and try to minimize these situations. Does it happen when he is stressed? Does he get so engrossed in play that he forgets to listen to his body signals?

2.Talk to your child about the importance of listening to his body signals. If he doesn't listen to his body, the feces gets harder, the doughnut muscle gets weaker, and the less the bowel and brain talk to each other.

3.Some children are embarrassed about going to the bathroom, so impress upon your child that going to the bathroom is normal and something that everyone does.

4.Put your child in clothes that they can get out of quickly, such as pants with an elastic band, rather than buttons and zippers.

5.Determine if your child is constipated. Constipation is often the culprit of encopresis.

6.Let the child over six take responsibility for cleaning his/her soiled pants. This is not a punishment, but rather a way to help your child learn to take responsibility for his actions and motivate him to listen to his body signals.

7.Avoid drawing too much attention to your child's bowel habits, as this can aggravate the problem. Focus on a solution rather than the problem
I found all this here:http://www.askdrsears.com/html/8/T086100.asp

In the middle of playtime, stop and ask him if he will go to the bathroom for you. If he refuses turn off the computer screen, pause the game boy, do what it takes to help him remember to go. If he is playing with friends at your house, have all of them to take a break or pull him to the side and remind him to use the bathroom. Don't allow him to rejoin his friends untill he uses the bathroom. When he is at someone else's house, ask the parents to remind him to use the bathroom. Even talk to his teacher, I'm sure she will understand. Yes, it is time consuming, but it will pay off for the both of you. When the accidents do happen, let him wash out his soiled clothes every time. Also talk to him about this, but be sure and do not put him down in any way. Be supportive!

My son did that too, but once he started taking his medication, it stopped. We also had him checked for possible constipation (x-rays of the abdomen) & he was constipated so the Dr. gave him a fiber-filled powder to add with water for a while to get him regular. We've also had intervals where he stopped taking his meds & started soiling again. I think it's just that they cannot focus long enough to go & they don't always read the signs.

My son is now 9. Recently, he stopped pooping in his pants (like a few months ago) the neurologist told me this was part of the ADHD . He used to wet his pants, too. But, he stopped this when he was like 5 years old.

I would like to hear from other parents if they have observed any of the following in their ADHD child. This are some of the problems I have seen in my son:constipation, soiling, delay in his speech or speech problems, He walked after he was 15 months. Other than that, he was a very normal infant. Then, He started to be very picky, especially with food & medicines. He kept his soiling and constipation problems. In social activities, it takes while for him to start interacting with others, he over-react, sometimes. He has a very small group of people he likes (including family members). He has a very short-term memory, but sometimes he can remember events than had happened long time ago. He gets mad very easily, he even gets mad if he can not remember something & blame others for that. His more or less OK in math, but a lot under his level in reading. I would like to hear from you.... Thanks

mlopez

My son who is 9 also soils his pants and wets too. Very similar to your observations. My son forgets what he did during the day, over-reacts and does get mad very easily. He also has just a few friends that he plays with. He has a lot of anxiety about going places with us and just would rather stay home. He is on adderall and straterra and just started the zoloft which has really helped with anxiety.

I'm working in a project to help kids with ADHD. Read my story and If you agree with it, please a letter (SPECIAL SCHOOL FOR ADHD) to:

President George W. Bush
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, US 20500
Phone: (202) 456-1414
Fax: (202) 456-2461

I have a child diagnosed with ADHD, his taking Ritalin and he is in ESE (Exceptional Student Education). His mayor problem is reading & comprehension. He has improved, but he is not in the level where he is supposed to be for his age & grade. I'm worry that this situation can lower (even more) his self-esteem, for not been able to get the same achievements as other. This is frustrating for students, for parents & even for teachers. Parents are blamed; Children are blamed or labeled. Schools are blamed. This is a neurobiological problem. This is nobody's fault. But, we all can do something, let put pressure in our political leaders so these kids can get more help. I think by preparing a special program/classes for this kind of disability (with psychologists, neurologists, teachers and parents input) Having these kids in a full time (separate) school with a fully trained personal in this matter & where they don't see themselves as “retarded” because the rest are doing great and they are getting D's or F's, will help so much! If the government has money for special schools & programs for "gifted" students, why not to invest in those who are in a "bigger" academic need. In my opinion everyone will benefit from this, even students who are not ADHD. Medication should not be the only solution; after all, they have side effects, too.

There is between 3%-10% of students with ADHD in US. Isn’t that enough to (at least) try with a pilot school to see if it work? We need to put these kids back in their normal life, faster and with less medication. If you read some statistics about kids with ADHD you will learn why is so important to help these kids now to avoid future problems that may be more costly for the government than the SPECIAL SCHOOL.

Oh for crikeys sake mlopez - maybe we dont want special schools for our kids - try preaching something else, please, repetitive threads really annoy me - well off to What really annoys ADHDers thread.
I have ADHD and had some soiling problems it came with me from STRESS

with me stress was cased by pestering

i also found out that the same part that controls your bladder and bowel is the part that is affected buy AD/HD

good luck

SAB2638507.2141550926I changed my son's diet and started giving him vitamins. He doesn't get processed foods, foods with white sugars and food dyes, etc. He is a changed boy. My son was dx with so many things, ADHD being one of them. He is just a normal boy now!!

I was shocked to see what the schools provide as breakfast to kids - cereals with lots of sugar, pop tarts -- processed foods and foods with dyes!! I haven't seen the lunches though (due to work) but its probaby not much better. No wonder so many kids have problems!!

Look at what people buying to stock up their cupboards -- all these overprocessed, sugared foods aren't supplying the vitamins/supplements our bodies need to operate properly. Fast foods, tv dinners, etc -- some kids live on these!!

I believe if people changed their diets, started reading labels on food products, educating themselves as to what they're eating -- they'd see an impressive change in their kids. The bonus is that many overweight people would see a weight loss and feel healthier!!

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It is hard. Is he on a 504 or IEP? Do they let him stand and even move around as needed. They really need to give frequent breaks and let him do work in a quite area as needed. It is hard in the traditional school setting but he can excel at the right school with a creative and understanding team. Hang in there!!
No he is not on anything even though I have tried. He struggles but does not struggle enough in their minds. He is a year behind in reading and has been since kindergarten so I want to hold him back. I have wanted to since k but every teacher as told me that is not the way to go. I am scared he is falling inbetween the cracks of our educations system. I do plan on homeschooling him next year, atleast at the moment I plan that. I am still not dead set on it. Oh why does this have to be so hard?
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He should qualify for at least a 504 plan. I am a school psych. We give it to students even if they are performing academically if we feel that their disability is, in fact, impacting a major life activity. For ADHD, that would include learning (as it relates to attention). Those children often need to be able to take tests in a quite or small group environment, more frequent breaks, being able to stand up and move around during class lecture (sometimes sitting on the side of the room so they can do so), figits, etc etc

My son has encopresis. His colon is the size of an adults because he has held it for so long. He is on myrelex. It has been a struggle and we are still working on it. He is in kindergarten this year. He will be attending the school I work at next year instead of the private school he has been attending partly due to this problem. Poor lil' guy. He gets so hyperfocused on activities he forgets to go. He is literally unable to tell he needs to go.

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Thanks I will have to look into it.
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Not an ADHD momma, but was the teacher and struggle with ADHD myself. Diets are more of a help than most people realize. PM me if you want more info.
very ture about deit and what you are feeding your child!
a good friend of mine has two with adhd and one is Autistic
she use to be a RN now after 6 years of school shes a nutritionist
and this is what she does is help parents with changing there childen
and turning around there lifes though food!
her kids and not on any meds and have not been for 4 years now..
it realy can't tell they have issues at all!
she has helped me alot with my daughter, my dd had health issues from birth very very bad asthma,allergies,etc. shes now OFF the meds (my doctor thinks i'm nuts)
we use juiceplus! it's a life saver for everyone!
also no food coloring/dyes
NO msg, cut WAYYYYYYY back on sugar, no junk
I cook everything so I know whats going in the meals, no "fake" foods
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