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Old 05-13-2006, 05:31 PM   #21
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For those interested, here's the link to the safe, homeopathic alternatives to shots, including maleria and other 3rd world country diseases. 30c is the recommended dose for children.

http://www.phytopia.biz/NosodeKits.html
www.elixirs.com

Some great books on the subject here: www.homeopathic.com

Here's more links for vaccine info:

www.909shot.com
www.vaccinetruth.org
http://vaers.hhs.gov
www.thinktwice.com

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Old 05-13-2006, 05:38 PM   #22
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For those interested, here's the link to the safe, homeopathic alternatives to shots, including maleria and other 3rd world country diseases. 30c is the recommended dose for children.

http://www.phytopia.biz/NosodeKits.html
www.elixirs.com

Here's more links for vaccine info:

www.909shot.com
www.vaccinetruth.org
http://vaers.hhs.gov
www.thinktwice.com

I bought a book that has all the homepathic alternatives for vax's and it's awesome! It's nice to know that I don't have to rely on a doc and shots to keep my kids safe.
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Old 05-13-2006, 09:05 PM   #23
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Re: Vaccine concern question?

About registering for school, it is actually not a requirement that you have your kids vaxed. You just need to fill out an exemption form when you register.
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Old 05-14-2006, 05:08 PM   #24
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as for bird flu there is no vaccine as of yet.. but i do not get my children vaccinated for flu every year like they like to do here i see no reason for it !
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Old 06-07-2006, 03:33 PM   #25
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wow, you mamas gave me a lot of information. I guess my real concern was if I did not get the vaccines now, would my childrens be more suspectible to this new disease. I have done some reading, and form what I can comprehend, I detest the thought of injected my children with anything. My oldest son is 11, he recieved all his vaccines, and just recently diagonsed with Asperger Sydrome (High Functioning Autisim).

My 4 year old will not be taking the MMR due when he reaches 5. London is 8 months old now, and I do not want to continue with his shots. He was born with congential pnuema so he has taken the syngenis shot for RSV every month from birth up untill March. This was soppused to boost his lungs to help keep him shielded from RSV. The doctor said that he shold have the pneuma vaccine, plus the mumps and rubella. Yet she did agree to wait till he is alomst 2 for the first Mumps.

I have since decided to forgo all vaccines. His appoinment is next month, and I know I will get some flak. I would like to know more, to have more amo so to speak for when I go.

Scatterbrain I did read and print your post on vaccines from the GC site. It was very helpful in helping me make the decision not to vaccinate. I just need some more education I guess.

Thanks to all the mamas that responded!

we have decided not to vax and had gotten flack from our dr. office until i handed them this...then i didn't hear a peep...hope this helps


[date]

County Health Dept. [address]

Attention: [Immunization nurse’s name]

RE: [first child’s name, date of birth] [second child’s name, date of birth]...

Dear Nurse [name]:

This office has been retained as counsel to represent [parent’s names], individually, on behalf of their children, [children’s names], with regard to my clients’ rights for an exemption from immunizations as provided by North Carolina Statutes 130A-157.

The present situation stems from my client’s refusal to have their children, [children’s names], submit to immunizations and innoculations as perscribed by North Carolina Statutes 130A-152. My clients have the right to refuse to have their children receive these injections pursuant to North Carolina Statutes 130A-137, since they have sincere religious beliefs which prohibit them from having their children receive immunizations and innoculations.

Recent court decisions have upheld the rights of individuals seeking exemptions from immunizations based upon “personal” religious beliefs. (Sherr and Levy vs. Northport East-Northport Union Free School District, 672 F. Supp. 81, (E.D.N.Y., 1987); (Allanson vs. Clinton Central School District, U.S. District Court, Northern District Court, Northern District of New York (84 CV 174), 1984; Campain vs. Marlboro Central School District, Supreme Court Ulster County Special Term, November 15, 1985; Brown vs. City School District, 429 NYS2d 355; Maier vs. Besser, 73 Misc.2d 241).

My clients’ religious beliefs include the following:

[editor’s note: amend the beliefs below as needed to have them apply to you; what you put here is up to you. Should your exemption be challenged, it will be up to the challenger to prove that what you state here is not your bona fide religious belief, a generally difficult thing to prove.]

“We believe in God, and that God has created us in his image. In being created in God’s image, we are given his perfect immune system. We are bestowed with His gift, the immune system. We believe it is sacrilegious and a violation of our sacred religious beliefs to violate what God has given us by showing a lack of faith in God. Immunizations are a lack of faith in God and His way, the immune system.”

[editor’s note: this last sentence is the crux of this religious exemption argument.]

“We believe in Jesus’ many promises of protection for us, and the He loves us, and will take care of us if we place our trust in Him. I believe that immunizations show no faith in God’s promises of protection for us, saying to God that you trust man more than His holy words of protection for us.”

“God desires us to love Him and our neighbors first and foremost. This is His first command. By loving Him, we are to fully trust on Him for all things. He is our Lord Father. He is our Rock, our fortress and our Savior.”

“Our faith is in God and in the Holy Word, being the Holy Bible which is authored by God. This is the instruction book for living that He has left us and in it He tells us He is our protector and we stand firm on His promise. Our faith is in Him!”

My clients’ religious beliefs are also based upon the understanding of what God requires of them as provided for in the Bible.

[editor’s note: add/delete quotes as suits your personal beliefs]

“Know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God and ye are not your own?”
(1st COR 6:19)

“That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.”
(1st COR 2:5)

“You must know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is within the spirit you have received from God. You are not your own.”
(1st COR 6:19)

“As a consequence, your faith rests not on the wisdom of men but on the power of God.”
(1st COR 2:5)

“I know with certainly on the authority of Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself: it is only when a man thinks something unclean that it becomes so for him.”
(Romans 14:14)

“If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, and you are that temple.” (1st COR: 3:17)

“For to his angels he has given command about you, that they guard you in all your ways.”
(Psalms 91:11)

“Follow God your Lord, remain in awe of him, keep His commandments, obey and serve Him and you will then be able to cling to Him.”
(Leviticus, 19:1,2)

I anticipate a prompt response from you or the appropriate official.

Very truly yours,

[lawyer’s name]

cc: [parents’ names]
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You go girl! That rocks! Thanks for all the scripture qoutes! I really do agree with all of that and do have my faith in the power of God and not in the wisdom of men. And I am trying to love God with all my heart and love my neighbors including all living beings. I believe all fears come from lack of faith in God's diving will. Thanks, mama!
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Old 06-07-2006, 10:16 PM   #29
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keegans_mommy and others - If your child is healthy and thriving, then why take him/her into an environment riddled with germs and people shedding viruses from live vaccines? Baby well visits aren't schedueled to see how your baby is growing, they are schedueled to give vaccinations. I weigh and my measure my babe at home. Take your baby to the doctor if she is truly sick, and then, IMO, I'd take her to the ER, because that is where medicine is at it's best.

falcon2 - There's more than just mercury to be concerned about. How about Formaldehyde, Aluminum and animal DNA to name just three? I wish my son would have had an immediate reaction (and he may have. We didn't co-sleep with him and he could have had seizures and I wouldn't have known), because if he had had a reaction right away, then I would have known what it was from and would have ceased the routine and sought treatment. But even then doctors say it's just a coincidence.

I also second the thought of wondering why I replied to this post, and that's because I don't want another babies injected with known and proven toxins. How can that be OK??

The vaccinations MB at mothering.com is very informative, although the ladies (who are not only mamma's, but nurse's and doctor's) are a bit jumpy when it comes to newcomer's. People show up and say things and then disappear w/o waiting for a response. I suggest you go there and read the Sticky's and if you have any further ?'s, then ask the intelligent, experienced ladies on that board.
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keegans_mommy and others - If your child is healthy and thriving, then why take him/her into an environment riddled with germs and people shedding viruses from live vaccines? Baby well visits aren't schedueled to see how your baby is growing, they are schedueled to give vaccinations. I weigh and my measure my babe at home. Take your baby to the doctor if she is truly sick, and then, IMO, I'd take her to the ER, because that is where medicine is at it's best.
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