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Old 03-09-2009, 07:49 AM   #1
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ok, so we just moved to an new town and transfered DS 's IEP to the new school. I a little upset as they took away some of his services, 1 being adaptive PE. I was told they don't have adaptive PE in this school. Well I am concerned because the old school ad pushed for the evaluation and once we did his gross motor skills were VERY delayed(more os than I thought) and he was getting nothing out of regular PE class and he HATES it. Now in this school they have PE 2x a week and told me he handles it ok, but if he doesn't they just take him out and do something else. that doesn't seem ok to me. I just wasn't happy overall with it and felt useless. I also can not stand the specialist they have. I know there are advocates and such out there to help but I have always been told the school likes it less when you involve these people. Just looking for a little advise and help. I have had him on an IEP for 4 years now and never once felt unhappy with what was on it

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I am so sorry that you are unhappy with his IEP. Are they doing anything else to meet those goals that were being worked on during adaptive PE? Is he going to get physical therapy outside of PE? I know that some schools are small and don't always have the resources or number of students to offer adaptive PE, but they may work on these skills during different times. Can you have a meeting and include the PE teacher, so he/she is aware of his skills and goals? How did you leave the meeting? Sorry for all the questions .

I am a special educator and if you feel that you need to get an advocate, do so. Don't worry about what the school with think. My youngest DD received special education services through our Infants and Toddlers program and sitting on "the other side of the table" was a whole different ball game for me. It is often hard to process everything that is going on at the meeting. It may be a good idea to have someone else there, just so that you can catch everything that is said. Especially being in a new school, where everything is new, it can be overwhelming. Continue to do what you feel is best for your child. You are such a great advocate for you DS already, keep up the great work.
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I would get an advocate. Your son needs Adaptive PE. Just because the new school doesn't offer it doesn't mean he all of a sudden doesn't need it. I've heard of schools paying for therapy stuff outside of school when they don't offer or don't have enough time for the services a child needs, but you would have to fight for it.

Being a parent to special needs kids can be so hard when you have to fight the system for what they need.
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thanks for the response I just need to get all my ducks in a row and get a meeting again.
they didn't give him any outside PE just consultation. they said he doesn't need it but in confuses me given the other evaluation that was done at the old school stating he does need it.
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I am so sorry that you are unhappy with his IEP. Are they doing anything else to meet those goals that were being worked on during adaptive PE? Is he going to get physical therapy outside of PE? I know that some schools are small and don't always have the resources or number of students to offer adaptive PE, but they may work on these skills during different times. Can you have a meeting and include the PE teacher, so he/she is aware of his skills and goals? How did you leave the meeting? Sorry for all the questions .

I am a special educator and if you feel that you need to get an advocate, do so. Don't worry about what the school with think. My youngest DD received special education services through our Infants and Toddlers program and sitting on "the other side of the table" was a whole different ball game for me. It is often hard to process everything that is going on at the meeting. It may be a good idea to have someone else there, just so that you can catch everything that is said. Especially being in a new school, where everything is new, it can be overwhelming. Continue to do what you feel is best for your child. You are such a great advocate for you DS already, keep up the great work.

the meeting was left that the PT would call me (she was absent the day of the meeting) she called me and didn't have much to offer"she was like they told me to call you" it wasn't very helpful they are just keeping him on consultation with Pt
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the meeting was left that the PT would call me (she was absent the day of the meeting) she called me and didn't have much to offer"she was like they told me to call you" it wasn't very helpful they are just keeping him on consultation with Pt
Yeah, I would set up another meeting to really discuss the PE and or PT. Keep on them, until you are happy with the plan. I am sorry it is so hard.
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I feel for you momma! As a school psychologist, I've always been lucky that my PTs were advocates for Adaptive PE. If you find yourself repeatedly not getting anywhere, you could always request a reevaluation looking specifically at gross motor skills. It would help determine if your child has made improvements and give the school an idea of where things stand now. An advocate is also always acceptable and a great way to help parents find their voice. I often recommended them to parents and always welcomed advocates at meetings because 1) I never had a need to feel defensive about it and 2) the advocate could help myself and parents communicate better. There were times when I was explaining something five different ways but the advocate could explain it better, simply because she was a parent who had "been there" and there have been times when an advocate could explain a parent's position better to me. It can be so intimidating for parents when you are the only one(s) there and there are 4-5 school personnel sitting there on "their turf." Another option would be to make a list of your questions and make an appt with the PT to sit down one-on-one and discuss your concerns. Your child is soooo lucky to have you as a mom, taking the time to advocate and follow up on things. I wish I had 100 more mommas like you!
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I had another thought after I posted. IF the PT is on the new IEP as providing consultation services than the PT is technically legally required to be at the IEP meeting. No one can be absent without your consent if they are providing IEP services because they are a member of the IEP team. That being said, schedules for PT are absolutely hectic and crazy so I understand the absence. Just know that you have a right to require the PT's presence. You can just be persistent when scheduling an IEP meeting and keep nicely saying that you want to schedule when the PT/all members of the team can be there. The school has to provide the opportunity but it doesn't have to be at your convenience, which can suck. I'll be thinking positively for you!
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I would get an advocate. Your son needs Adaptive PE. Just because the new school doesn't offer it doesn't mean he all of a sudden doesn't need it. I've heard of schools paying for therapy stuff outside of school when they don't offer or don't have enough time for the services a child needs, but you would have to fight for it.

Being a parent to special needs kids can be so hard when you have to fight the system for what they need.
I was a special educator before I became Mrs. Mommy Get an advocate. Also, they MUST pay for adaptive PE if they don't offer it. Don't worry about what the school will think. They need to comply with the law. They should be changing their services to meet the needs of your son, not the other way around. Hang in there!

ETA: If you're ever in a meeting, and you don't feel comfortable with the decisions being made, just don't sign. If you don't want to make a stink at the meeting, just say, "You know, I want to take this home and read over it before I sign it. I'll get back with you in a few days." Then take it home, read it over, and anything you don't like... ask them to change it. You are entitled to as many meetings as you want to feel that your son is being appropriately served.
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I had another thought after I posted. IF the PT is on the new IEP as providing consultation services than the PT is technically legally required to be at the IEP meeting. No one can be absent without your consent if they are providing IEP services because they are a member of the IEP team. That being said, schedules for PT are absolutely hectic and crazy so I understand the absence. Just know that you have a right to require the PT's presence. You can just be persistent when scheduling an IEP meeting and keep nicely saying that you want to schedule when the PT/all members of the team can be there. The school has to provide the opportunity but it doesn't have to be at your convenience, which can suck. I'll be thinking positively for you!
Excellent advice as well!
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