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Old 07-06-2009, 07:47 PM   #1
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Now she's covered in a rash, most pronounced on her torso, front and back. Doc says aftermath of the virus should go away in the few days - - She's still just lying around and not doing much of anything - just nibbling here and there and putting away the fluids. Fever is gone tho - she feels like a block of ice.... IDK what's going on - We're going to see the other doctor tomorrow at 3:45 tho.1

OK - So.... gonna try to be as brief as possible.... so feel free to ask questions if you like....

Since DD was about 10 months old - when she first started eating food food - as in... something besides breastmilk, she has had puking issues. She pukes at random - at home, in the car, before a meal, after a meal, so on and so forth. After she turned 1 it became more frequent, from once every 2-3 days to every day - then it became 3-4 times a day every day just about.

She had been going thru repeat ear infections, etc, but we haven't had any trbl w/ them in a few months now. At first one doctor I saw, let's call her Dr. T - said "kids are pukers" and basically told me to get over it - she'd outgrow this whole puking stage or something another. The second doctor, let's call her Dr. B - said sounded like car sickness - because it did seem to occur most often during or right after a car ride, said try benadryl about half an hour before hitting the road (we do alot of long distance travel - 1/2-3.5 hours visiting in state family. Well..... that didn't work.... nor did basically starving her before a trip. So.... we see a third doctor, Dr. W, who says let's treat is as if it's allergies, because the puke is alot of times very mucousy. Well.... we've been trying that and seeing no improvement and things have possibly worsened, as she's eating more food and a bigger variety of foods.

Her allergy testing revealed severe allergies to tree pollen. In addition to that she was allergic to : Field Grasses, Ragweeds, Weeds, Mold Spores, House Dust, Feathers, Oats, and Cottonseed Oil. Pear and Sweet Potato also popped up - but doc thinks they are false positives. We're scheduled to start allergy shots when we come back from vacation at the very end of this month. She's currently on Nasonex and Duradryl twice a day.

So anyhoo - a few weeks ago - she was keeping a low grade fever, some diarhhea for about 2 weeks - brushed it off to teething, as did the docs. Then out of nowhere, fever spikes up to the 103s and she doesn't pee for almost 24 hours. We're admitted to the hospital and she's given an IV. They say bacterial infection - then after 2 days there - come and tell us no bacteria in the cultures - after they've given her 4 rounds of IV antibiotics. She's still running a fever - but it's staying low grade. They send us home and shake it off as viral.... This was early/mid june. Well.... ever since then she has run a "low grade fever" staying around 99 to 101. Docs said it's not really a fever unless it's 100.5 - but DD still hasn't been herself. Well... this past Thursday she started getting warm - and then by Friday she was running in the 103s again. Never surpassed 104, but got close with a 103.9 . She hasn't been able to keep more than a piece of cheese and a few crackers down since then and has vomited on and off - but not more than usual, when she doesn't have a fever, but she's also had the runs really bad. Called the doc on call twice - and she said - not to worry - do tylenol/motrin in rotation every 3 hours and at an increased dose - since at the normal dose every 4 hours her fever wasn't coming below 101. And she said if she wasn't peeing every 6 hours to take her in or if she still had a fever monday morning to bring her in.... Well....We thot she was better this morning when we set out on our way home from the IL's because her temp was at 99 something and she hadn't had any medicine since 11 the night before, but before we got 30 minutes out she started puking up clabbered milk and pieces of undigested cheese from the day before... WTH!? How could cheese sit on her stomach for over 12 hours and still be in intact pieces? Not but a few minutes after she threw up - her fever spiked up again....... Called the doc (AFter conversing with Dr. T on and off all weekend) and could only get in to see Dr. T (All 3 are in the same office). She'd lost 1/2 a lb since last week. They swabbed her throat and pricked her finger - and come back and said virus. Said - expect her to be sick another 2-3 days, but that hopefully we were over the worst of it. Well, after we left the doc - we were back up to almost 103.... a bit ago she was back down to 100 with tylenol..... However, it always seems like it takes the tylenol or motrin almost 2 hours to start working any. As we don't see any change in her temp til at least an hour and a half after her dose.... Could mucous be sitting heavy on her tummy and preventing it from absorbing as quickly as it should? So am I overdosing her by doing it every 3 hours? UGh . . I am so frustrated by this - as I have not slept in a week and am having contractions out the wazoo because im letting her nurse because its' the only thing I can comfort her with it seems. . .. She does good for about 2 hours, then gets draggy/sick again for 2 more, then the cycle repeats w/ the tylenol/motrin. IDK. again, just very frustrated. I'm thinking it's just a virus and allergies... But DH is concerned something is wrong w/ her tummy.... so we have an appt to meet with our fave doc, doc W and see about a referral to pediatric GI specialist....

In the mean time, my MIL is in a nerve wracking panic - and driving me crazy! And I am so frustrated and stressed I wanna scream, cry, and puke all at the same time......

I could soooo say more........

But anyhoo - does anybody elses kid or have they ever - puked at random all the time? even when they weren't technically "sick"?

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Old 07-06-2009, 08:02 PM   #2
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Yep...my DS did this all the time. Finally figured out he just doesnt digest as quickly as he should (foget the correct name right now)and also has sever reflux. They did a couple of different tests. He is on Reglan to help digestion and Zantac and Previcid for the reflux. It seemed to help, but he would have one episode every day or two until he hit about 2 and then it was every couple days and now that he is 3, it has completly stopped unless he is sick.
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Oh, Celia! What an ordeal!!! I don't know what to tell you other than to definitely go see a GI doc! It doesn't sound like the docs you've seen have even really considered a GI problem, which seems odd to me. (Of course, having GI problems, I'm biased).
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My DD has a nuerological condition, but along with that she has cyclic vomiting/abdominal migraines. She has always been a puker. She will also go hours with food in her tummy and puke it up in huge chunks.

Could be reflux/gall bladder issues too. Gall bladder issues can cause mucousy/fatty/chunky vomit and floating (fatty) poops too.

Just something to ponder.
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Old 07-07-2009, 01:47 AM   #5
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Not the fever issues, but all the puking/undigesting, yep. But still not sure why, as it doesn't seem tied to any particular food and reflux meds don't usually help, and we've got an appt with a pedi GI in a couple weeks to try and figure it out. Dd also has horrid reflux at night (you can hear it coming up in her throat and she just cries). She woke up with it again about 20 minutes ago.
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:44 PM   #6
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Has anyone here tried Chamomile Tea or 'Green Magma' watered down for their little ones with reflux? Both are natural treatments and both helped dramatically with my little one's reflux when he was younger. In fact since he was EBF besides the tea and/or Green Magma (depending on severity the Green Magma is stronger) he refused to take a bottle unless it had 'medicine' in it . Bottles were not for milk.

I don't know for sure about the OP's issues, it seems like there's a lot more going on there.
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Rashes from food allergies present primarily on the torso as well...but again, I'm biased.
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The fever and Rash could be Fifth Disease, especially if the rash appeared after the fever broke. If this is the case and you're expecting and do not know for certain if you've had it yourself in the past I'd mention it to your Dr as well.

http://kidshealth.org/parent/infecti...in/fifth.html#
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The rash does sound like Fifth disease to me... my daughter had it, she basically refused to eat, had a fever, didn't nap well, and was very clingy and crying for 5 days... and then broke out in the rash just as the other symptoms went away. If you're pregnant don't worry too much, there is no known danger to pregnant mums, especially as 99% of adults have been exposed to it at some stage already (often with no symptoms in older children/ adults). There is no treatment for most of these weird childhood viruses anyway... my daughter just had hand foot and mouth, and i am pregnant too!

Oh... fifth is Roseola...
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With update issue that sounds just like Roseola (also called sixth disease)! You get a high fever usually at 102.5 and above.. then it rash comes. Primarily in the stomach and chest area although the face is involved a lot also.

All my kids have had this and while it looks scary it actually goes away fast once the rash breaks out.

Here is info. to help with seeing if the rash is like this. http://kidshealth.org/parent/infecti...n/roseola.html
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