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Old 01-06-2007, 09:09 PM   #41
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Anyone have any thoughts on the euro brands like the maxi-cosi? Are euro seats really safer?

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Old 01-07-2007, 06:33 AM   #42
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Anyone have any thoughts on the euro brands like the maxi-cosi? Are euro seats really safer?
The report says they are.
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/b...7_seats_ov.htm

I'm having some trouble understanding how a nonprofit organization can be accused of creating a controversial report only for the money. Any other workers in nonprofit places find this hard to understand as well?
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Old 01-07-2007, 10:22 AM   #43
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Non profit for the company status doesn't mean that the people working there (CEO on down) don't get paid a salary. "Administrative costs" are allowed to eat up a lot. Also, they need to make money to stay in business just like a for profit business does.
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Here's a great blog by junkscience detailing other scare tactic things that Consumer Reports has put out, along with why they were unnecessary or unneeded. http://www.junkscience.com/consumer/consumer_index.html

Info about subscription-driven revenue and how "fresh blood" or a large amount of subscribers is necessary to break even: http://www.techsoup.org/learningcent...g/page5228.cfm
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Old 01-07-2007, 06:40 PM   #44
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Of the subject areas I'm knowledgeable on, CR has 'blown it' more often than not, especially on thier quick bubble-dot summaries. I don't consider their advice 'expert' but instead use their complete stories as a start for areas I know little about.
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Theres a huge difference in a anti-rebound bar and an anti-rebound foot...The bar goes along the seat back the seat is on....the rebound foot goes from the top (head) of the carseat to the floor.....look up the Britax cosy tot and it will show you.
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Old 01-17-2007, 07:27 PM   #46
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Re: Only 2 carseats make consumers cut.

Upon talking to a carseat tech at Sunshine Kids regarding their Radian (who, by the way, did not bash CR at all and is also not worried when they decide to test the Radians with other convertable styles) said the biggest thing to remember about the Consumer Reports testing is that they INCREASED the standards! And the way he put it, 5mph increase on frontal crash with a 22 lb child is like a 38% load increase (don't qoute me on the numbers), so YEAH several seats would be EXPECTED to fail the testing as they weren't designed to pass those higher test standards. And add a side-impact test, and of course seats "could" fly off bases! Whether or not their tactics are "fair", the hope is that the government will increase the testing standards and the carseat companies will have to step up to the plate! As for me, I'm switching my baby from his infant carseat (which wasn't tested) to the Sunshine Kids Radian as I feel fully confident it is a much safer alternative in the event we are involved in a 35mph frontal or 38mph side impact crash. (By the way, Radians have an internal steel frame and other safety features and after an extensive discussion with the tech I personally opted for that over the Britax Marathon. I do feel a rear facing and tethered Marathon would also be much safer option in a higher impact crash than an infant seat used with the base.)

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