Diaper Swappers

Little Stitch · 02-01-2010, 02:00 PM

I thought I remember reading that the seller isn't supposed to ask the buyer to cover PP fees...is that right? So what if I want to buy something from someone but they are asking the buyer to cover the PP fees - should I? Shouldn't they just calculate that into their price?? What is the point? So it will appear cheaper then it really is?

Strawberree · 02-01-2010, 02:20 PM

I am certain that it goes against Paypal's TOS to ask a buyer to cover those fees. The seller needs to calculate those fees into the price they are charging if they want them "covered."

blesdfish · 02-01-2010, 02:32 PM

Not to hijack thread but what about in FFS? I did on my last FFS, why should I pay if I'm giving something away?

chickenmonkeybaby · 02-01-2010, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bjoyyoder

I thought I remember reading that the seller isn't supposed to ask the buyer to cover PP fees...is that right? So what if I want to buy something from someone but they are asking the buyer to cover the PP fees - should I? Shouldn't they just calculate that into their price?? What is the point? So it will appear cheaper then it really is?

Fes are covered by the seller, per DS and Paypal rules. Do not pay anyone's fees and do not ask anyone to pay yours.

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Originally Posted by blesdfish

Not to hijack thread but what about in FFS? I did on my last FFS, why should I pay if I'm giving something away?

FFS is not the same as regular FSOT. Paypal fees are allowed to be included in FFS totals.

CarrieMeredith · 02-01-2010, 02:57 PM

While I agree that seller's should include the fees in their prices, saying that it is against Paypal's TOS to ask buyer's to cover fees isn't correct.

http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/...d.php?t=679950

b'smom · 02-01-2010, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarrieMeredith

While I agree that seller's should include the fees in their prices, saying that it is against Paypal's TOS to ask buyer's to cover fees isn't correct.

http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/...d.php?t=679950

Actually, you are NOT allowed to. Fees are charged for funded and cc and you are not supposed to add a surcharge that you would not add if the payment was not paypal. See paypal policies here:

https://cms.paypal.com/ca/cgi-bin/?&...eiving%20Money

There is also a FSOT sticky that says the seller covers fees here:

http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/...d.php?t=867921

Either the employee you spoke to was incorrect (not uncommon with pp) or the policy has changed in the past year. But it is currently against paypay policies to charge the buyer for fees.

Little Stitch · 02-01-2010, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarrieMeredith

While I agree that seller's should include the fees in their prices, saying that it is against Paypal's TOS to ask buyer's to cover fees isn't correct.

http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/...d.php?t=679950

I read this thread - Paypal is so confusing to me!!

Oh well,

I would never ask someone to pay my PP fees - and now that someone else confirmed that it is against DS rules to pay someone else's fees when you're the buyer - I'll continue to steer clear of that as well.

Thanks!

CarrieMeredith · 02-01-2010, 08:26 PM

You're confusing "surcharge" with "passing paypal's fees on to the buyer". They are two different things.

4.5 No Surcharges. You agree that you will not impose a surcharge or any other fee for accepting PayPal as a payment method. You may charge a handling fee in connection with the sale of goods or services, as long as the handling fee does not operate as a surcharge and is not higher than the handling fee you charge for non-PayPal transactions.

A surcharge is totally different then passing paypal's fees on to the buyer.

I promise that if you call and talk to multiple employee's, the answer will be the same. A "surcharge" is not the same as paypal's fee. Read the thread that I posted again--it is kind of confusing until you really understand it.

Again, I just want to make clear that I do agree that seller's should just add the fee in to their prices.

TuthGuru · 02-01-2010, 08:32 PM

maybe FFS should be renamed FFFS (free for fees and shipping)!

TuthGuru · 02-01-2010, 08:34 PM

oh but wait- in a ffs couldn't payment be sent as service (and therefore have no fees associated with it) since you're just paying for them to ship- not paying for goods?

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blesdfish Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Austin, tx Posts: 1,906 Ratings: 8 Feedback: 100% My Mood:	Re: stupid question? Seller asks Buyer to cover PP fees? Not to hijack thread but what about in FFS? I did on my last FFS, why should I pay if I'm giving something away? __________________ Hope -wife to Mark -mommy to Jack(2-15-07) Silas(12-18-08) Mercy(8-13-10) Iris(6-2-12)

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CarrieMeredith Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 9,017 Ratings: 204 Feedback: 100% My Mood:	Re: stupid question? Seller asks Buyer to cover PP fees? While I agree that seller's should include the fees in their prices, saying that it is against Paypal's TOS to ask buyer's to cover fees isn't correct. http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/...d.php?t=679950 __________________ My ISO/IHA Wife to the love of my life Mother to Beth 9/07 and Chloe 4/10 Swagbucks FAQ**I've earned $400 in Amazon GCs using SWAGBUCKS and ZOOMBUCKS

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CarrieMeredith Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 9,017 Ratings: 204 Feedback: 100% My Mood:	Re: stupid question? Seller asks Buyer to cover PP fees? You're confusing "surcharge" with "passing paypal's fees on to the buyer". They are two different things. 4.5 No Surcharges. You agree that you will not impose a surcharge or any other fee for accepting PayPal as a payment method. You may charge a handling fee in connection with the sale of goods or services, as long as the handling fee does not operate as a surcharge and is not higher than the handling fee you charge for non-PayPal transactions. A surcharge is totally different then passing paypal's fees on to the buyer. I promise that if you call and talk to multiple employee's, the answer will be the same. A "surcharge" is not the same as paypal's fee. Read the thread that I posted again--it is kind of confusing until you really understand it. Again, I just want to make clear that I do agree that seller's should just add the fee in to their prices. __________________ My ISO/IHA Wife to the love of my life Mother to Beth 9/07 and Chloe 4/10 Swagbucks FAQ**I've earned $400 in Amazon GCs using SWAGBUCKS and ZOOMBUCKS