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Old 02-14-2007, 09:17 AM   #1
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Someone help me w/ vax facts....(non-vaxers)

Okay I sent my SIL the warning about the Rotavirus vax incase her dd who is the same age as Jackson got it. She was the one that gave me the hardest time when I stopped vaxing Jackson, but we haven't talked about it for the longest time. Well she sent me a link to a page on the CDC on why you shouldn't stop vaxing and said don't be mad but I know you quit giving Jackson immunizations because of what some people told you. ahh no it's called I have done my own research other people just opened my eyes......so perfect time to send back link for why I don't vax right?? I have a couple links one with the ingredients, one about autism.....anyone have any others??? I am trying not to too much but I want to send back something good .

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Old 02-14-2007, 10:46 AM   #2
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Re: Someone help me w/ vax facts....(non-vaxers)

no one has any links?? I think I'll just write her an email and explain (sort of) why I choose not to vax.....show her the igredients and explain that the diseases vaxed for are not that scary and are definitely tolerable, etc.....anymore advice??
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www.909shot.com

http://home.san.rr.com/via/

and my own site: www.milkshakemomma.com has great links! including the above mentioned ones.

I have never vax'd my boys. We also experienced whooping cough a few years back...

hth & good luck
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Re: Someone help me w/ vax facts....(non-vaxers)

Here's some links.

http://www.mercola.com/article/vaccines/ingredients.htm

http://www.mercola.com/article/vacci...uppression.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2005/sep/20/n...th_mercury.htm

http://www.mercola.com/article/vaccines/preface.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2003/jul/26/v...plications.htm

http://www.mercola.com/article/vacci...ney_damage.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2001/may/5/va...n_smallpox.htm

That should be enough to, at least, make her think.
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Old 02-14-2007, 01:30 PM   #5
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Okay I sent my SIL the warning about the Rotavirus vax incase her dd who is the same age as Jackson got it. She was the one that gave me the hardest time when I stopped vaxing Jackson, but we haven't talked about it for the longest time. Well she sent me a link to a page on the CDC on why you shouldn't stop vaxing and said don't be mad but I know you quit giving Jackson immunizations because of what some people told you. ahh no it's called I have done my own research other people just opened my eyes......so perfect time to send back link for why I don't vax right?? I have a couple links one with the ingredients, one about autism.....anyone have any others??? I am trying not to too much but I want to send back something good .
What did she give you? The CDC's "parent pages"? Those are a total joke. They are written like someone in primary school is supposed to read them. Notice how there is only one source cited at the bottom of the page she sent you? If you follow the link to the author, the page "cannot be found". If you investigate further, you'll find that the author is not what we would call credible (think who he's getting his money from).
Real research that is made for intelligent adults will involve many sources and alot of solid raw data. Anyone can write a book and say whatever they want (as in the case of that author), but data doesn't lie.

Tell her if she wants to debate on your level, she should start reading the CDC's Pink Book which is made for health care professionals, not for brainwashing parents into vaxxing. You could start by sending her the link that says clearly that the chances of catching a disease that they vax for is less than having a vax reaction.
Here it is:

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/pink/#download

Direct link to chapters:
http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/..._pink_full.htm

Direct link to Appendices:
http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/...nk_appendx.htm

And incase you're not into reading through it:


Chapter 4 of the Pink Book... page 1, 3rd paragraph
Quote:
At the same time,
approximately 15,000 cases of adverse events following
vaccination are reported in the United States each year. This number exceeds
the current reported incidence of vaccine-preventable
childhood diseases.
As a result, parents and providers in the
United States are more likely to know someone who has
experienced an adverse event following immunization than
they are to know someone who has experienced a reportable
vaccine-preventable disease.


If you need any other specific links, let me know. Your SIL sounds like she hasn't really done her research!
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Check out this graph that shows how much disease rates fell naturally BEFORE vaxes were introduced...very interesting for all the folks who believe the propaganda that vaxes are why this country isn't riddled w/ deadly diseases anymore...
http://www.healthsentinel.com/graphs...rint_list_item
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Hmmm, perhaps this link will work...
http://www.healthsentinel.com/graphs.php
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